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by kirito » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:33 pm
the animation is actually excellent, it’s the art style you don’t like. there are some really well animated duels in both clone wars and rebels
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by jubjub » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:38 pm
I just started Clone Wars and hated it at first, and still kinda do for the human characters, but I just finished a Kit Fisto episode and it works really well for aliens.
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by emotional fascism » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:52 pm
i think what cracks me up most about TCW animation style is that it evolves to almost identical and surpasses the CGI in Attack of the Clones at some point in the series. Attack's effects work is soooo bad.
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by evil olive » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:08 pm
kirito wrote:the animation is actually excellent, it’s the art style you don’t like. there are some really well animated duels in both clone wars and rebels
This is a totally fair point. I'm old enough that I was an adult when cartoons became computer animated and it seemed terrible and forced at first and it can be a style I don't love.
Im sure 99% is computer now.
Is there a name for this style?
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by kirito » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:18 pm
jubjub wrote:I just started Clone Wars and hated it at first, and still kinda do for the human characters, but I just finished a Kit Fisto episode and it works really well for aliens.
yeah it helps if you understand the characters are supposed to look like action figures
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by board ghost » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:23 pm
emotional fascism wrote:i think what cracks me up most about TCW animation style is that it evolves to almost identical and surpasses the CGI in Attack of the Clones at some point in the series. Attack's effects work is soooo bad.
i watched this video last night that was some lucasfilm people chronicling the designs of every clone/stormtrooper in all of the live action SW in Release order and when it got to AtoC i had this thought too like i watched and was like “wait i thought they said live action only... this is from clone wars or something right?” before realizing it was AtoC
just atrociously bad. even at the time.
There’s no path to a satisfying conclusion at this point.
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by Trebek » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:25 pm
There's a shot at the end of AtoC of a close up on badly CGI'd Clone Trooper that made me the maddest I've ever been at a movie. All the money in the fucking world and they couldn't make a real helmet for that one shot.
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by Amblin » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:26 pm
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by Rainbow Battle Kid » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:04 pm
for any of you non-Blank-Check-listeners, this was a good ep that kinda goes into the technical stuff of what they were trying to do with AOTC and why it didn't turn out great.
https://soundcloud.com/griffin-and-davi ... w-jd-amato
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by reversemigraine » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:52 pm
Digitally inserting Obi-Wan's robes for the sole purpose of making them move when Dexxter hugs him is still the most ridiculous and on-brand bit of PT trivia.
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by reversemigraine » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:54 pm
And yet somehow Mark Ruffalo's head popping out of the Hulkbuster is still more offensive than AOTC's shit FX.
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by Milquetoaster Strudels » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:21 pm
Man, I totally thought the Clone Wars series was 2D animation, but I guess the one I'm thinking of was a precursor to all this
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by reversemigraine » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:27 pm
Milquetoaster Strudels wrote:Man, I totally thought the Clone Wars series was 2D animation, but I guess the one I'm thinking of was a precursor to all this
davideotape wrote:the tartakovsky clone wars
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by Self Destructive Zone » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:31 pm
I haven’t watched the 2d clone wars but I know that Obi Wan crushes General Grevious’s lungs in it which is why he is wheezing in ROTS. None of that is canon now because the 3D clone wars are the Disney canon, and in 3D clone wars it turns out that Grevious always had the cough. He was just built shitty I guess
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by Smiling Penner-Lite » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:46 pm
reversemigraine wrote:And yet somehow Mark Ruffalo's head popping out of the Hulkbuster is still more offensive than AOTC's shit FX.
ha ha ha yup
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by Bad Craziness » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:18 pm
I liked how quiet and slow this episode was. The show has embraced silence and moodiness as a virtue, and it’s shocking how much that sets it apart from most other mainstream shows/movies
the scene with the “campfire” in the woods was especially beautiful
at this point I don’t really care too much either way about all the Big Connections. I’ve already compartmentalized OT as what Star Wars actually is, and everything else as fancy fan fiction.
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by Ted Pikul » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:58 pm
Ever think about how there are no doctors or nurses in the Star Wars universe, only droids?
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by Bisexual Lightning » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:08 pm
Kit Fisto
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by Rainbow Battle Kid » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:17 am
Bad Craziness wrote:I liked how quiet and slow this episode was. The show has embraced silence and moodiness as a virtue, and it’s shocking how much that sets it apart from most other mainstream shows/movies
the scene with the “campfire” in the woods was especially beautiful
at this point I don’t really care too much either way about all the Big Connections. I’ve already compartmentalized OT as what Star Wars actually is, and everything else as fancy fan fiction.
yeah i was a little "oh no" at this double-lightsaber lady showin up at the beginning, but then her actual fight style of stealth and turning off the sabers between attacks was p cool. i ended up thinking of Sekiro a bunch during the ep.
and yeah this has a lot of stuff that would have me worried IN THEORY but in practice it was actually pretty rad. surprisingly quiet and measured, and yeah i thought the same thing as someone upthread how it was funny the climax was a western on one side of the gate and a samurai movie on the other side. i also think that town bell design is from a McQuarrie painting?
i also really liked how genuinely proud mando seemed when grogu force-pulled the ball away from him.
the "seeing stone" nonsense would have had me a little wary but at this point the show has kinda earned my trust and obviously anything can go off the rails but i'm loving this shit so far
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by rixx » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:31 am
wait that thing on Ahsoka's head is a headdress?? i always thought it was like, weird alien protrusion hair.
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by Amblin » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:50 am
no its like horns growing out of her head
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by surly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:49 am
Ted Pikul wrote:Ever think about how there are no doctors or nurses in the Star Wars universe, only droids?
lordofdiapers wrote:damn it Greedo will forever fuck that word for me
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by Self Destructive Zone » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:25 pm
Finished clone wars and it is literally astounding how much better the ending to that is compared to revenge of the sith , genuinely moved by the final shot - although
It was hilarious when you’d get an update from where you were in the film’s timeline. When they’d be like Obi Wan is off to arrest General Grevious! And you’d have to imagine off screen that he’s riding that stupid dinosaur and wasting everyone’s precious timeToggle Spoiler
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by kirito » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:31 pm
Ted Pikul wrote:Ever think about how there are no doctors or nurses in the Star Wars universe, only droids?
bacta and kelto kind of make medicine redundant as a profession
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by reversemigraine » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:32 pm
It's really a glimpse of how the PT could have unfolded had the same basic story simply been told from a different perspective.
Maul is a really compelling villain in that final arc. As a few of us noted at the time, the sequence where he's prowling around the ship and starts tearing it apart from the inside is KOTOResque.
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by window » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:54 pm
lighting/shadows in that shot look wrong
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by Self Destructive Zone » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:27 pm
reversemigraine wrote:It's really a glimpse of how the PT could have unfolded had the same basic story simply been told from a different perspective.
Maul is a really compelling villain in that final arc. As a few of us noted at the time, the sequence where he's prowling around the ship and starts tearing it apart from the inside is KOTOResque.
Yeah and that’s why I’m not sure it would work if you just watch the four episodes. Ashoka and Maul and Rex storylines make you care about them in the context of where they are while RotS is happening, but if you don’t know them, you probably won’t care. The show definitely did a good job of giving Maul an identity beyond looking cool, and one of my favorite bits is just the throw away gag of Hodo consistently referring to Maul and Savage as “the horny guys who are afraid of Kenobi”. They also obviously make the clones more human, and do a better job of laying the groundwork for both the failings of the Jedi Council and Anakin’s general dissatisfaction with them in a way that I think the films tried to do, but definitely failed at
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by Ted Pikul » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:08 pm
There are a lot of things that could improve the PT, but Count Dooku should have been the primary villain of the first two movies. His entrance in AOTC opens up so many possibilities with regard to the Jedi and what they stand for, and then it's all just thrown away in the third movie. Also change his name to not Dooku. Also Maul kills him and then the last movie is Anakin vs Maul.
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