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Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:13 pm
by kirito
i liked tlj when it came out and still like parts of it but it’s interesting how much worse it is knowing that it’s completely inconsequential and meaningless

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:16 pm
by kirito
it’s good to make a movie about the lessons learned from failure. it’s not good to make a movie in which none of the characters do anything that matters.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:24 am
by speakers
kirito wrote:it’s good to make a movie about the lessons learned from failure. it’s not good to make a movie in which none of the characters do anything that matters.


perhaps that was their greatest failure

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:38 am
by Spooky Jim
surly wrote:just a reminder that tlj is a perfect movie

And you were taken aback when called Warren a COINTELPRO operative. But geez, this is a way more absurd and trolling thing to say.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:54 am
by surly
its perfect and i've said so for years

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 am
by A-Ok
surly wrote:its perfect and i've said so for years


Using the cutesy definition of anything completed is perfect because it can't be improved upon I guess. But just know your wording gives the false impression this movie is good or entertaining. It's rarely either.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:38 pm
by Lowercase Tea
Nah, I think surly is still right with that definition.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:00 pm
by Grey Poupon
I like it when luke drinks the green milk

Actually all the sequels are probably best when the actors are having fun

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:43 pm
by Smiling Penner-Lite
I twice tried watching TROS on Disney+ and couldn't do it.

What a waste of a great cast.

TLJ is the best SW film since the OT but I completely agree it seems pointless after TROS and the sequel trilogy in general accomplishes nothing.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:45 pm
by Spooky Jim
I think TROS is significantly better than TLJ. TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie, period.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:54 pm
by surly
So the thing about that is you are wrong

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:54 pm
by hbb
It’s DIVISIVE

(SPL is correct though)Toggle Spoiler

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:59 pm
by Spooky Jim
The Laura Dern arc is so mind numbingly stupid. As is all the time on canto blight. The film wasn’t rendered pointless because of TROS, it rendered itself useless. Every scene in the film is meaningless and unclimatic.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:59 pm
by Drinky
virtuous wrote:This is definitely worse than phantom menace and revenge of the sith


How long has it been since you've seen those movies?

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:00 pm
by Spooky Jim
Infact, I feel TROS sorta saves face for TLJ a little by explaining smoke is a clone, which makes his boring death feel a little less cheap some how.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:01 pm
by hbb
Oh, I get it! You’re watching it wrong.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:01 pm
by virtuous
Spooky Jim wrote:I think TROS is significantly better than TLJ. TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie, period.

Insane take

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:02 pm
by Spooky Jim
How can I be watching it wrong. How can you see the entire Laura Dern let them blow up every ship and then light speed into the other ship and not think that is one of the stupidest pay offs in a sci fi film. Why didn’t she just do it from the start?

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:04 pm
by virtuous
Drinky wrote:
virtuous wrote:This is definitely worse than phantom menace and revenge of the sith


How long has it been since you've seen those movies?

Last year. They’re awful (and clones is easily the worst) but TROS is in the discussion. That movie was abysmal.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:15 pm
by Drinky
Fair enough. I rewatched them all pretty recently and decided that it was pointless to try to pick a worst out of the three. It's just one long terrible movie in 3 parts.

TROS is a dumb movie, but I've managed to watch it twice. I didn't have any trouble sitting through the whole thing either time, but in 10 or so years I may feel differently.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by virtuous
Spooky Jim I know you’re wrong because I’ve never seen hbb actually call someone out like he just did to you.

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:08 pm
by speakers
Spooky Jim wrote:How can I be watching it wrong. How can you see the entire Laura Dern let them blow up every ship and then light speed into the other ship and not think that is one of the stupidest pay offs in a sci fi film. Why didn’t she just do it from the start?


you mean sacrifice herself and everyone on board as a first option?

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 pm
by badhat
the less time you spend thinking about any sort of extra-textual implications of weaponizing hyperdrive the better

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:37 pm
by surly
how often are nef and i aligned on anything

our cause is righteous

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:57 pm
by RIXX
I think i enjoy phantom menace more than TROS, it’s somehow less dumb and has podracing and maul

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:09 pm
by k_uger
the TROS hate is such a bullshit self affirming circle jerk, just like the TLJ hate was

Carrie died y’all, the franchise was over at that point

they did what they could

and Duel of the Fates would have been such hot garbage

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:11 pm
by surly
the stitched together carrie performance is like the least bad thing about TROS though

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:15 pm
by k_uger
really the whole sequel trilogy was pointless without a meaningful Leia payoff, and I don’t know that it really would have been salvageable with one

which is why I don’t hate TROS, I find it sweet and affirming, and more entertaining than TLJ, which sure, tried to say something, but... I’m not really sure that it did

Cantobite and the fucking horse creatures were so stupid and pointless.. BB-8 in an AT-ST was the lamest thing of the entire trilogy, it may as well have been a direct reference to the crappiness of the prequels, and Phasma was the worst character with the lamest story of the entire trilogy

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:16 pm
by i am rich
im sure this has been said before but they shoulda just had a story arc set before they started...

Re: STAR WARS TROS/Mando Thread: Iger: Less Reylo, More Mand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:18 pm
by k_uger
surly wrote:the stitched together carrie performance is like the least bad thing about TROS though

yea but the necessity of doing that really limited the plot of the whole thing is my point

it could have been a sick Star Wars action movie for the collective Bros of the multiverse with badass lightsaber duels on Coruscant (lol that would have actually been prequel redux, it’s hilarious that people pine for this version) or it could have had the heart and soul of the entire thing and been limited in narrative scope like TROS was

but let’s not pretend that the entire sequel trilogy was anything but half baked remakes of each of the original trilogy