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Postby whatabout tim » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:53 pm

Patriot still kinda works. It has been my backup all season and it steals cubes from so many real decks.

I honestly find shuri redskull/she hulk really boring. It is such a basic deck and doesn’t feel like there’s any skill or variance to actually playing it.

The only fun card in the deck was aero, so of course they nerfed it for no reason whatsoever.
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Postby tgk2 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:08 am

Yeah aero is basically worthless now
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Postby This Guy » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:06 am

I’m still trying to make Aero as a 5/8 work, but it is getting really hard
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Postby Viz » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:47 pm

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Viz wrote:Just claimed my first free series 3 card. Got Kingpin.


Why kingpin? I'm waiting for something decent to rotate in for my freebie. Right now it's orka lol no thanks


Cause I was dumb and didn't realize I could wait for a different card.
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:08 pm

uhh i still win a ton of games with aero

it was the best card in the game and needed a nerf
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Postby manvstrees » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:15 pm

i don't think it was and i dont think it did
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Postby tgk2 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:27 pm

Aero was the best fuck you card alas.

I just hit level 40/gold. Never made it that far before. Owe it all to getting shuri and she hulk this season, unlocking enormous power combos with sunspot, red skull, and taskmaster.
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Postby tgk2 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:29 pm

Also i love playing zero with low cost high power cards like ebony maw lizard and maximus in the first 3 turns.
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:51 pm

manvstrees wrote:i don't think it was and i dont think it did

what card was better?

aero was a single card accidental win condition in like 10% of games, with no setup or combos. you just got to turn 5 or 6 and could be like, "nice, drew aero, i win now"
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Postby manvstrees » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:02 pm

right and that isn't the best card
i loved it, don't get me wrong
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:42 pm

I mean even the dogshit developers conceded that the aero nerf wasn’t supported by numbers and just “felt unfair.”

I’d rather they nerf truly brain dead plays like daredevil/prof x or galactus/knull, both of which carry higher win rates and cubes gained for no actual skill.
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Postby This Guy » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:47 pm

Daredevil/Prof X is my most hated combo. Feels so unfun. At least Galactus blows up the world and feels epic.
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:55 pm

I trusted that the developers had a history of balancing card games. They literally nerf a handful of cards at random, once a season, resulting in a game that is more poorly balanced each season. I can’t wait to look up the one deck everyone is playing next season as of day 2.
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Postby tgk2 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:58 pm

Copying decks is so dull. Gotta put your own personality in there
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:23 pm

Just ran into galactus/shuri nimrod/kang that I still stomped with shuri and froze my game when the opponent retreated. Working as intended.
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:25 pm

whatabout tim wrote:I mean even the dogshit developers conceded that the aero nerf wasn’t supported by numbers and just “felt unfair.”

I’d rather they nerf truly brain dead plays like daredevil/prof x or galactus/knull, both of which carry higher win rates and cubes gained for no actual skill.

where are you getting those numbers? they do not seem to match those on snap.fan

galactus is braindead, but so was aero. aero was *more* braindead because it's a single card, you can look at the board state and immediately have a good idea of what will happen when you play it. galactus' braindeadness occurs over multiple turns and has a ton of counterplay to avoid. daredevil/prof x is not really braindead, you're getting washed on stats with those two cards, putting out 5 power where the on-rate power should be like 10-12. plus it's literally the most telegraphed play in the game
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:36 pm

Edit: nevermind
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Postby coma kid » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:38 pm

damn, the doctor is in
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Postby rap and country » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:46 pm

tgk2 wrote:Copying decks is so dull. Gotta put your own personality in there


yeah, i'm not saying i don't get some ideas but you gotta play your faves
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Postby rap and country » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:48 pm

i just pulled luke cage so now i have to build a hazmat deck i guess
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:04 pm

whatabout tim wrote:Marvelsnap.pro as of last week when I posted in here begging for a balance. I’m still running through people with shuri unphased. Glad they nerfed the deck.

oh, i use their app to track my games.
but aero has a higher WR than prof x/daredevil by their numbers as well. aero is also higher than galactus on dot pro (although i think dot fan has galactus with the edge)

don't get me wrong, they did fuck all to fix shuri decks. but that doesn't retroactively make aero a fair card. i mean, shuri decks used her too lol

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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:05 pm

rap and country wrote:
tgk2 wrote:Copying decks is so dull. Gotta put your own personality in there


yeah, i'm not saying i don't get some ideas but you gotta play your faves

ur still a discard main, right? i kinda wanna see your favourite decks, i have finally unlocked some discard cards and can play that now
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:13 pm

Just edited because I was getting too combative. I was searching for anything other than shuri to play, and it feels like there is nothing. It blows that such a basic deck is so dominant still.

I can’t find it on my phone, but marvelsnap.pro lets you limit by season or more than just seven days. That’s how I could see that patriot’s effectiveness jumped super high this season in particular (no idea why, maybe the natural counter decks are less popular?). Also, even running ultron, there wasn’t a huge jump in win rate or cubes for mystique over just blue marvel and Kazaar with an extra big body.
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Postby rap and country » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 pm

this is my main deck which i used all of last season and the first couple weeks of this one (been experimenting with some other things lately)

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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:25 pm

whatabout tim wrote:Just edited because I was getting too combative. I was searching for anything other than shuri to play, and it feels like there is nothing. It blows that such a basic deck is so dominant still.

I can’t find it on my phone, but marvelsnap.pro lets you limit by season or more than just seven days. That’s how I could see that patriot’s effectiveness jumped super high this season in particular (no idea why, maybe the natural counter decks are less popular?). Also, even running ultron, there wasn’t a huge jump in win rate or cubes for mystique over just blue marvel and Kazaar with an extra big body.

yeah it really sucks and feels incredibly stale right now

i opened Darkhawk last week and that has been carrying me (in terms of having a deck that is interesting to play buy decently strong). i alternate between a few others (negative, sandman ramp, zoo, modok, etc.) but they all feel like 45% winners at best

interestingly, even my Shuri winrate has plummeted because it's so uninteresting to play i just zone out when i'm using it. by "plummeted" i mean it's now a 58% winner for me instead of a 66% winner
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:26 pm

rap and country wrote:this is my main deck which i used all of last season and the first couple weeks of this one (been experimenting with some other things lately)

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ty, gonna try it later
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Postby rap and country » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:34 pm

alternate version i was trying out but still maybe need to tweak a bit:

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Postby tgk2 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:36 pm

I struggle with discard decks they always take my hela
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Postby rap and country » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:41 pm

yeah i think i like my main one better b/c hela and ghost rider are unreliable (though fun when they do work)
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Postby Zardoz » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:42 am

started unlocking pool 2 cards. made a silly move deck, definitely the most fun I've had so far
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